Which is the right Prohormone

[mike_adrock]

As you may already know I've constructed a pretty heavy cycle, but I was wondering if anyone knew of any specific Prohormones like Norandrostenediol, Or anything related to that; that would be good for a hard gainer to put on some weight and muscle

[MF 2HD]

1. What is it and where does it come from?

19-norandrostenediol (19-diol) is the moderately anabolic base of the steroid Deca-Durabolin. In many countries around the world, 19-diol has been sold to athletes as a indictable steroid.

It was only allowed to be sold in the United States after new legislation made it legal to sell it as a nutritional supplement, along with DHEA, androstenedione, and others. 19-diol is a long-acting and potent muscle builder that produces rapid recovery. High quality 19-norandrostenediol is available from Bodybuilding.com.


2. What does it do and what scientific studies give evidence to support this?

19-diol latches onto steroid receptors longer than testosterone does. It is frequently preferred over testosterones because it does not have as many androgenic side effects, such as increased body hair growth, deepened voice, and male pattern baldness. Studies show that one can sustain nortestosterone levels for up to ten times longer with 19-diol versus some previous products that enhanced testosterone levels. It is also expected to convert to nandrolone at a rate three times greater than norandrostendione. Nandrolene does not convert to testosterone as androstenedione does. What does all this mean? Basically, 19-norandrostendiol has been reported to increase strength, initiate rapid and massive muscle growth, and allow for faster recovery after working out. It is so new that no human studies exist yet.

3. Who needs it and what are some symptoms of deficiency?

Bodybuilders, athletes, weight-trainers, and those who work out off and on could benefit from the positive effects attributed to 19-norandrostenediol. Since 19-diol is not an essential nutrient, deficiency is not associated with it.

4. How much should be taken? Are there any side effects?

Most athletes who supplement with 19-norandrostenediol consume between 100 and 200 mg per day. Usually they take it in one large dose 45 minutes before working out or training with a large glass of water. Do not exceed the recommended dose. Pregnant or lactating women should not take 19-diol, nor should individuals with an enlarged prostate. If you have a medical condition, consult your physician before supplementing with 19-diol.

More Nor-Diol Info From Big Cat!
Target Hormone: 19Nortestosterone (nandrolone)
Molecular name of target hormone: 17ß-hydroxy-19-nor-4-andro-sten-3-one
Target conversion: High (15.76 %)
Conversion enzyme: 3-ß-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (3HSD)
DHT conversion: none
Estrogenic effects: none

To me, this is the top of the line, though some will not agree with me. I stacked this with 5-diol, and as I explained the 5AD did very little other than keep androgens moderate and ensure greater Nor-diol conversion, and came to the conclusion that this is without a doubt the hands down winner of the Andro Wars.

The advantages include no estrogen or DHT prior to conversion on the basis of it being a diol version, and only a fifth the DHT conversion afterwards because it has nandrolone as a target hormone. It's almost twice as anabolic as its dione counterpart and in terms of gains can match 4-diol milligram for milligram. It is of more use to the young bodybuilder because it converts to nandrolone via the 3-beta enzyme assuring high conversion and not interfering with testosterone production other than by negative feedback. Meaning in moderate doses it will not stunt your natural testosterone too much and ensure a faster recovery afterwards. That makes it definitely the most potent prohormone to use by itself, but obviously the stacking is limited. If you were willing to take the risk of mega-dosing and reach enzyme saturation, 19Nor is a possibility, but since most of the question I get about prohormones have a severe undertone of fear where side effects are concerned, I don't think that will be a popular stack. With 4-diol you have too strong of a competition, vying for the same receptor enzyme. 5-diol is your best bet because of strong anabolism despite low conversion and the fact that it can upgrade the 3-beta enzyme assuring greater conversion.

The greatest downside to Nor-diol is the cost. It's hard to find quality because not many quality companies produce it. The economic returns are minimal because people don't like paying that much for a prohormone. Some companies will even badmouth Nor-diol to cover their lack of endeavour (are you hearing me Paul Delia?). Your best bet on the market these days, and I know the Bodybuilding.com store carries them, are Prolab (100 mg per cap) and Ergopharms oral product (150 mg per cap) I only mention this because a lot of people have asked me where to find good Nor-diol.

[MF 2HD]

19-Norandrostenedione (19-Nor-4-androsten-3,17-dione)

Target Hormone: 19Nortestosterone (nandrolone)
Molecular name of target hormone: 17ß-hydroxy-19-nor-4-andro-sten-3-one
Target conversion: average (5.61 %)
Conversion enzyme: 17-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (17HSD)
DHT conversion: None
Estrogenic effects: possibility of aromatisation of the compound as well as the target hormone.

The first prohormone to convert to nandrolone in the body. It yields roughly 5.61% percent of nandrolone from the amount ingested, which is decent. It's a dione version meaning there is a risk of estrogen aromatisation prior to conversion, but it's only moderately androgenic and more anabolic than andro because it yields more available nandrolone than andro does testosterone. Obviously it doesn't measure up against Nor-diol, but with andro being out of the question for most people that means it's often stacked with 4-diol or 5-diol. If you are using these as the hinges of your stack, obviously your 3-beta enzymes will be stocked, meaning that if you wanted to add a low-androgen compound to your stack, 19Nor would be first choice. Obviously the risk of estrogen is minimized because the other products are diols and adding a nor for extra anabolic effects without the fear of extra androgenic side effects is always a good deal. But the only reason most companies prefer 19Nor over Nor-diol is the simple reason that Nor-diol costs three times as much to manufacture, so the economic returns are limited. Instead of being upfront about money-grubbing, they invent stuff about there being no quality Nor-diol available. AST is one company that has sunk that low. This is simply not true. Nor-diol is hard to find yes, but if you find the right brand you can expect 85-90 percent purity, and that's pretty damn good.

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19-Norandrostenedione (19-Nor-4-androsten-3,17-dione)

Target Hormone: 19Nortestosterone (nandrolone)
Molecular name of target hormone: 17ß-hydroxy-19-nor-4-andro-sten-3-one
Target conversion: average (5.61 %)
Conversion enzyme: 17-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (17HSD)
DHT conversion: None
Estrogenic effects: possibility of aromatisation of the compound as well as the target hormone.

The first prohormone to convert to nandrolone in the body. It yields roughly 5.61% percent of nandrolone from the amount ingested, which is decent. It's a dione version meaning there is a risk of estrogen aromatisation prior to conversion, but it's only moderately androgenic and more anabolic than andro because it yields more available nandrolone than andro does testosterone. Obviously it doesn't measure up against Nor-diol, but with andro being out of the question for most people that means it's often stacked with 4-diol or 5-diol. If you are using these as the hinges of your stack, obviously your 3-beta enzymes will be stocked, meaning that if you wanted to add a low-androgen compound to your stack, 19Nor would be first choice. Obviously the risk of estrogen is minimized because the other products are diols and adding a nor for extra anabolic effects without the fear of extra androgenic side effects is always a good deal. But the only reason most companies prefer 19Nor over Nor-diol is the simple reason that Nor-diol costs three times as much to manufacture, so the economic returns are limited. Instead of being upfront about money-grubbing, they invent stuff about there being no quality Nor-diol available. AST is one company that has sunk that low. This is simply not true. Nor-diol is hard to find yes, but if you find the right brand you can expect 85-90 percent purity, and that's pretty damn good.

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i have purchased 19 nor 250 from AST....WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT this product....it contains 250g of 19 nor unlike the standard 100mg???