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    I want to up my hrt test cyp injections to try and add more muscle and lose some fat. I was wondering how much test per week is ideal for growth. Any nutrition suggestions for adding muscle and reducing fat would also be great.

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    Originally posted by braves80 View Post
    I want to up my hrt test cyp injections to try and add more muscle and lose some fat. I was wondering how much test per week is ideal for growth. Any nutrition suggestions for adding muscle and reducing fat would also be great.
    I wish I could help you out with some information about testosterone cypionate. Although I am on TRT, I am presently pretty much sticking to what the doctor prescribed, which is 100 to 140 mg a week. I don't have personal experience with dosing test for muscle gains.

    My suspicion is that what I take is pretty low compared to what some folks inject. I've heard that 400 mg is more the usual per week and that's in conjunction with some other stuff. The former DD said 1000 mg a week was the way to go.

    I also inject HCG which is often used to get lean and mean. I however am using it to offset the effects of longterm TRT, such as shrinking gonads. However, I have noticed a gradual loss of fat.

    One thing to be cautious of is that test converts to estrogen, the higher the dose the more chance of this happening. You will want to take some anti-estrogen meds like Arimidex or Clomid.

    Whatever you decide to do regarding testosterone cypionate, the main thing to remember is that nothing is going to work unless your diet is good. And remember to get plenty of rest. Make your workouts count and don't over work your muscles....more is not always better.

    It has been years, but my experience with D-bol was positive. I really packed on muscle fast using D-bol in a modest dose.

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    • #3
      Hi guys,,,
      I am sorry about the present query.I can't prescribe you at my own.I recommend you to better use it on the advice of the doctor.So kindly visit the nearest health care center and have a better advice.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by braves80 View Post
        I want to up my hrt test cyp injections to try and add more muscle and lose some fat. I was wondering how much test per week is ideal for growth. Any nutrition suggestions for adding muscle and reducing fat would also be great.
        I have taken 250 ml of test cyp twice a week and .25 Anastrazole a day for 3 months and got pretty good gains my doctor has me on hrt 75 ml test cypt twice a week, HCG at .5ml twice a week and .25 Anastrazole a day for the last 3 months. I have not lost any strength but i did loose alot of water i was holding. My last blood test showed my test levels were at 806 all other levels were good. I have to take another blood test first of next week and im hoping she will try to get my levels closer to 1000 I do feel better when my levels are higher but i have never went over 500 ml of test cypt a week.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by silverhorse11 View Post
          I have taken 250 ml of test cyp twice a week and .25 Anastrazole a day for 3 months and got pretty good gains my doctor has me on hrt 75 ml test cypt twice a week, HCG at .5ml twice a week and .25 Anastrazole a day for the last 3 months. I have not lost any strength but i did loose alot of water i was holding. My last blood test showed my test levels were at 806 all other levels were good. I have to take another blood test first of next week and im hoping she will try to get my levels closer to 1000 I do feel better when my levels are higher but i have never went over 500 ml of test cypt a week.
          I am injecting 140 mg of test cyp per week. Did you notice a big difference when you were taking 250 twice a week and what you are injecting now? I doubt I could get my doctor to up my dose that high because my last blood test came back showing my test levels at a little over 1,000. which he commented was rather high. If I up my own dose, I'll have to purchase the test on-line on my own.

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          • #6
            Bodybuilding.

            Originally posted by braves80 View Post
            I want to up my hrt test cyp injections to try and add more muscle and lose some fat. I was wondering how much test per week is ideal for growth. Any nutrition suggestions for adding muscle and reducing fat would also be great.
            500mg would be standard for beginners. I would say 750mg would be intermediate and anything beyond that would be considered advanced. 500mg would be a good starting point though, broken down into multiple weekly injections.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Matt C View Post
              500mg would be standard for beginners. I would say 750mg would be intermediate and anything beyond that would be considered advanced. 500mg would be a good starting point though, broken down into multiple weekly injections.
              Testosterone Cypionate has a half life of eight days. I am not sure one need inject it more than twice a week to keep the levels even.

              Considering I only inject 140-150 mg per week, it seems any of my muscle gains are more a result of my excellent workout ethics and not the result of using test. I find myself wondering what would happen if I injected 500 mg or more per week. Damn! I'd probably have an awesome physique, bitch tits and pimples on my back like some of the pros! LOL.

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              • #8
                Speaking of steroids, do you think if I seriously used steroids my calves would grow? Yesterday, I was working hams and calves. A fellow I know, asked if he could work in with me on the seated calf raise. He has really big calves. Surprisingly, I did more reps with much higher poundages than he did. He actually failed and I had to spot him on his last rep on one set. Damn genetics....makes me crazy! My calve remain at 16" regardless of what I do. Of course skinny calves and all I am still much better looking than he is, so at least some of my genetics I want to keep.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by silverhorse11 View Post
                  I have taken 250 ml of test cyp twice a week and .25 Anastrazole a day for 3 months and got pretty good gains my doctor has me on hrt 75 ml test cypt twice a week, HCG at .5ml twice a week and .25 Anastrazole a day for the last 3 months. I have not lost any strength but i did loose alot of water i was holding. My last blood test showed my test levels were at 806 all other levels were good. I have to take another blood test first of next week and im hoping she will try to get my levels closer to 1000 I do feel better when my levels are higher but i have never went over 500 ml of test cypt a week.
                  Do you mean ml or do you mean mg? My testosterone Cypionate is 200 mg per ml and comes in a 10 ml vial which lasts three months on my current prescription.

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                  • #10
                    250ml/1ml test cypt. I wrote that wrong i was taking 1 ml twice a week = 500 mg a week. I took that before i was on trt i dont think my doc would perscribe that either. That was the first time i took test cypt and i thought it did a pretty good job. My test level was low at the time around 200 so anything would have helped. Im on test ethanate 150/1ml now its supposed to be just as good or better. I have been on it for about 45 days and supposed to get blood test next week to see what my levels are at they also have me on HCG so i guess that supposed to help your levels go up as well. I will let you know what my levels are when i get them back.

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                    • #11
                      Bodybuilding.

                      Originally posted by silverhorse11 View Post
                      250ml/1ml test cypt. I wrote that wrong i was taking 1 ml twice a week = 500 mg a week. I took that before i was on trt i dont think my doc would perscribe that either. That was the first time i took test cypt and i thought it did a pretty good job. My test level was low at the time around 200 so anything would have helped. Im on test ethanate 150/1ml now its supposed to be just as good or better. I have been on it for about 45 days and supposed to get blood test next week to see what my levels are at they also have me on HCG so i guess that supposed to help your levels go up as well. I will let you know what my levels are when i get them back.
                      I will imagine I will be going on TRT at some point in my life. I don't see why there is any reason for a man not to do that. There are obvious benefits to doing so and to be honest, I'm not seeing enough cost to be concerned with avoiding it. I do see a lot of propaganda claiming that TRT is bad, but nothing in terms of heavy scientific evidence [or any scientific evidence] actually proving it is bad.

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                      • #12
                        My two cents on cyp

                        Ok, well I started this journey as an HRT patient. 5grams of androgel per day, which I'm told equals about 5mg of test per day. That got me up to around 800 or so, which is on the high end of normal. But, not being content with such a great thing, I wanted more. I then got hold of test enthanate and test cyp. For the cyp, I was using 400 mg twice a week. The results were phenomenal as far as muscle building went, and I was working out like a slave. One thing I did find is your muscles tend to get too strong for your tendons and ligaments. I guess it takes far longer for them to catch up than the muscles. My advice, if you are really serious about doing your own plan, is to slowly up your dosage, say around 200 twice a week. Make sure you don't start lifting immensely heavy weights but do lots of reps. That is truly the way to vascularize your muscles.

                        I would also say you should begin to learn about a certain way to do cardio, called VO2max. It is the standard being used for pro athletes and special forces soldiers. Essentially it helps you benchmark your cardio fitness and shows you ways to increase your cardio fitness. It is almost impossible to lose weight, however doing large amounts of testosterone, unless you are also doing VO2Max. Wikipedia has an excellent article on it, and there are many good resources all over the net. Using VO2Max my stats were: 50 yrs old, 6'1", weight 265 lbs, body fat of 33% and I went to 200 lbs, and 12% body fat in about 8 months. Needless to say, I put on an enormous amount of muscle as well as losing the fat. I have a 50" chest and a 30" inch waist. I never had a 30" waist in high school. I credit the VO2max with the majority of my fat loss and not the test.

                        The test, when I was running it in cycles would stop my weight loss, and I'd begin to put on muscle, and then when I cycled off, I continued the exact same workouts, with plenty of VO2max. Taking a lot of test is going to cause you all kinds of side effects, so my advice is to take enough that you find yourself motivated to do serious workouts, and no more. Also, as has been said, the more you take the faster your testicles are going to shrink. Mine almost got down to the size of large grapes. I began a heavy HCG regimen, and they came back bigger and better than before but there's only so many times you can "come back", so it's best to be taking it alongside your test. HMG is an even better product. You will get acne, you may lose some hair, grow breasts, and all the other negative side effects on large amounts of test. Also, large amounts of test will mess with your blood pressure. So, you could be causing yourself more long term problems than you could imagine. My regimen to get my boys back was 10,000 iu's per day for 5 days, followed by 5,000 per day for 5 more days, and then 2,000 for 2 weeks, and 1,000 for another 2 weeks. They came back, but I can't tell you how bad the acne I got was, but the boys were worth it, because the acne eventually went away. When I'm on test, I take 500 iu's every other day for maintenance. Sometimes they actually get too big, and you can hurt yourself sitting down, if you're not careful, so a maintenance dose varies from one individual to another. My preference now is HMG. You can research both and draw your own conclusions.

                        If you must, at least you should do as much research on it, as you can and make sure you have some medications to ease your symptoms, like an anti-estrogen.....there are many. My fave is letrozole, but you have to know what you're doing with it, or you'll temporarily kill your sex drive. It turns out what makes men horny is actually estrogen. Letro is so good at destroying all of your estrogen, that you won't be able to get an erection, nor care. Viagara may, or may not help. Usually it doesn't do all that much, same with ciallis and levitra. There is one thing that turns out to give you erections no matter how much letro you've taken, or how many beers you've had.....its called melanotan II. It will have you doing no handed pushups in no time. Its something people use for tanning, but it also has the most amazing sexual side effects you can imagine. It does wonders for women too. PT-141 is derived from Melanotan II and is only for the sexual boost. I can report my wife loves PT-141. My advice is to perhaps take a little more than you are, and use VO2max and ligfting to get the fat loss/muscle gain you want. Besides, I can tell you, from having had various physiques from the hulk physique to the buffed swimmer physique, its been my experience that women prefer the swimmer build. Good luck, and be careful. Don't forget the HMG or the HCG also.

                        A good doctor these days will try to stimulate your testicles into producing more test by prescribing HMG or HCG. Sometimes it is all a person needs to get themselves feeling like they were 20 again. If I was starting all this all over again, I'd try that route first, before going to test.
                        Last edited by Kein; 05-19-2012, 04:36 PM.

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                        • #13
                          All good information, Klein. A couple of years ago I went on HRT, initially using Androgel and eventually injecting test cypionate because my insurance covered it at a better rate than the Androgel. I did my research and ordered HCG from an on-line pharmacy as well as an anti-estrogen. All was going well with the exception that I was having more trouble then usual getting an erection although I did feel hornier than usual. The test cypionate dosage was relatively low at 150 mg a week, but it brought my test levels up to between 800 and 1,000. My workouts were more inspired than usual and I gained a fair amount of weight (I tend to be on the thinner side).

                          Last January, after high PSA results, a cancer positive urine test and a diagnosis of prostate cancer as a result of a prostate biopsy, I immediately stopped using testosterone cypionate as well as the HCG and anti-estrogen. Eventually, I also stopped taking DHEA because it too is a male hormone. Testosterone is like candy for prostate cancer. For some odd reason, I have had no withdrawal symptoms since stopping the testosterone. In July, I will have a Da Vinci prostatectomy. Fortunately, the cancer was caught in the very early stages and it isn't aggressiveve. I should be fine. As to whether or not I resume HRT once all is said and done remains open. However, I suspect I will not go back to injecting testosterone. One odd result is that I have better and more frequent erections than when I was injecting test cyp. Maybe my estrogen was getting too low.

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                          • #14
                            Bodybuilding.

                            Should I begin a cycle of steroids immediately?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Primemuscle View Post
                              Speaking of steroids, do you think if I seriously used steroids my calves would grow? Yesterday, I was working hams and calves. A fellow I know, asked if he could work in with me on the seated calf raise. He has really big calves. Surprisingly, I did more reps with much higher poundages than he did. He actually failed and I had to spot him on his last rep on one set. Damn genetics....makes me crazy! My calve remain at 16" regardless of what I do. Of course skinny calves and all I am still much better looking than he is, so at least some of my genetics I want to keep.
                              Definitely genetics. Same problem for me.

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